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  1. CYCLONE 2

    2019 YZ250X out the door pricing?

    No, not opposed to a KTM or Husky. As a matter of fact originally I was visting a KTM dealer thinking I'd like the 300xc or the 250xc. I didn't haggle much on the price but I did ask about the 300xc and I think it was like $9,400 OTD. I think the 250xc was like $100.00 cheaper. I'm really baffled about the OTD pricing some guys are claiming. I've done quite a bit of checking around and the absolute best I found on the 250X was $6,984 without paying sales tax buying out of state. In my state (Ohio) the best I found was $7682 including tax. I did check with the BMV and if I wanted to buy a used bike with only the "certificate of origin".......the seller would then have to pay the tax on the original purchase price in order to get the title so it could be signed over to me.....and then......I'd need to pay the tax on the price I paid before the title would be in my name. THEN I could register the bike (manditory) so that I could ride at some of the state parks that are on my bucket list. Apparently I could buy the bike out of state without paying the tax in Ohio and down the road I could sell the bike to someone that didn't care about registering it. That's the only scenario where I could get away from paying sales tax.
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    2019 YZ250X out the door pricing?

    Update.........I called yesterday to the dealer in Pa. with intentions of hooking up my trailer, driving there and coming home with the 250X. Turns out there was a guy on his way to the dealer to pick up the last one they had in stock. I called today to see if the purchase happened and it did. The sales guy said he was told they would have more coming around the end of March so a few weeks isn't a deal breaker for me assuming that they will truly come in as he said. As I've continued searching CL I've noticed a 2015 YZ250 and two 2017 YZ250s which look pretty good and the price would be a lot easier on the wallet. I've had several YZ250s in the past, and to be honest, never had any issues with them for trail riding, hill climbing, hare scrambling, or MXing. Of course, that was 15 years ago and I'm sure my abilities are probably not going to be the way they used to be. As I became familiar with the 250X it seemed like it would be a much better choice since I don't see me doing any MXing although an occasional hare scramble might be something I might want to try. So, would the 250X be that more of a better choice or maybe the YZ250 would be just fine?
  3. CYCLONE 2

    2019 YZ250X out the door pricing?

    HAha......I just finished responding about the tax to "getting there" when you posted. Looks like we're on the same page about just get it and ride!
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    2019 YZ250X out the door pricing?

    I've seen mentioned a few times "the crappy style lever". Is there a better design on the kick starter lever on the newer Xs? What's different or better? You know, you got me thinking about the deal in Pa. I just now sat down and figured the tax (if I wanted to go pay it) would be $506. That would give me a total of $7,490 for the bike. Or, just pay the $6984 and go ride! As long as I kept the paperwork from the dealer it shouldn't be a problem to sell down the road.
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    2019 YZ250X out the door pricing?

    I agree about the kick starting thing. Maybe because I don't have any knee or leg issues, although I did notice when I sat on a new X in the showroom that I was tip toeing to keep it vertical. I was hoping that after setting up the suspension it might lower it a tad. If not, I could see having to put the kickstand down and standing on the foot peg to kick it or finding the high side of a hill or rock or something to put my left foot on to kick it. A small downhill I could bump start it................I dunno, maybe Rpt is right? The button would be easier!
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    2019 YZ250X out the door pricing?

    I did some calling around yesterday for pricing at Yamaha dealers. I'm right on the northeast borderline of Ohio so a trip into Pennsylvania is not too much of an issue. 2 dealers in Pa. ........one quoted around the $8K mark and claimed they would have to charge Ohio tax which was included in that price. The other dealer quoted $6984 OTD and didn't include tax. I'd get a certificate of origin and it would be up to me to pay the tax in Ohio. One dealer in Ohio, about an hour away from me quoted $7842.11 OTD which included tax. And the cheapest quote was $7682.30 OTD including tax from a dealer about 1 1/2 hours away from me. *********About paying the state tax and getting a title*******..............it seems if I were to buy a used bike that didn't have a title, I could possibly risk the fact that's it's a stolen bike. It seems to me that would make purchasing said bike a little less desireable. It's tempting to buy a bike out of state and not pay state tax but wouldn't that make it harder to sell without a title when it came time to sell that bike? It's not like I enjoy paying tax but a few places I want to go to ride I believe it's mandatory to have a state sticker (which would require a title to obtain) or you cannot ride there. I know that's the way it used to be however that was many years ago and things may have changed.
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    2019 YZ250X out the door pricing?

    HA ha.....sounds like you're in pretty good shape, no doubt better than where I'm at at this point. I actually thought I was mellowing out buy searching for an X as opposed to a YZ250 or one of the 450 MXers! Truth be told I won't know where I'm at until I put a few hours on whatever I end up with. I raced motocross till I was 50yo. Got out of it for a few years and then got back trail riding and hill climbing on a CR250. For me, on any bike, (dirt or street) the motor is the addicting part of the experience. I was afraid the X motor might be a disappointment compared to my previous YZ250s or Cr250 but after reading a ton about them I can see the X would be a much smarter option.
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    2019 YZ250X out the door pricing?

    Well, I called and talked to a salesman at the dealer in Massillon. The bike that's advertised is no longer there, but they will get one for me at the same advertised price of $6,399. By the time they add destination fee,doc fee, tax and title fee I'd be at $7,708.04 OTD. That beats the last quote I got by about $300. Then I called a dealer in Pennsylvania that has one in stock. Their price OTD is $8690. It's looking like my hopes of $7,500 OTD may not happen. The state tax thing is not helping @ 7.25%. There is a guy near me that has a 2016 X for sale asking $4,500 with no title but a certificate of origin. It's on Craigslist in Columbiana Ohio. It has an Acerbis tank on it. He says he's the second owner and the bike has about 60 hours on it. The suspension has been redone by some aftermarket company which I can't make out what the stickers say. I don't really understand about the suspension thing. After all I've read about the Yamaha's GREAT suspension why take the chance to have someone "update" it?
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    2019 YZ250X out the door pricing?

    Thanks for the "headsup" on that bike at J&J Motors in Massillon. I did check the add and got the phone number. I've been at that dealer before when I took a friend to pick up a used Harley he purchased there. Not too far away and it looks to be a great deal. I'll give them a call today. Last week I drove to Cuyahoga Falls to a dealer called State 8. They were advertising a 19X for I think $6899. I talked to a salesman there and got a price. After they added a destination fee, a "docking" fee, and whatever else fee + tax it came to $8,050 OTD. I'll get back to you and let you know what they have to say. Thank you!
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    2019 YZ250X out the door pricing?

    WOW...... looks really good! This past Fall I went to look at a 2016 that had a skid plate, handguards, pipe guard and a few other small items. He was wanting to get $4,700 which is what he said he still owed on the bike. He claimed it had only around 10 hours on it. Hard to say about that but it looked to be believable. At that time my wife was dealing with leukemia and wasn't doing too good so I postponed the purchase because it just didn't seem like the thing to do at that time. Not sure if he sold it or not because it's not advertised but I did keep his phone number. I've been thinking about giving him a call but at the same time I feel like I deserve a NEW bike! It's been a rough last year and a half. It will probably be my last hurrah.........but, you never know...........
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    2019 YZ250X out the door pricing?

    Many thanks for all the really quick responses. I think the Yamaha 250X is the bike for me. I think if I can get it for around $7,500 OTD that's a pretty good price and the dealer can still make some money. I can develope a good relationship with the dealer and have a place to get parts when I need 'em. At the ripe old age of 68 I just hope I can find somebody to put me on the bike and work the kick starter for me!.........
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    2019 YZ250X out the door pricing?

    Yeah, I agree about the dealers needing to make a profit. I'm an electronic tech at a music store that has to constantly match prices from the internet stores. Less profit and they're paying me as opposed to the internet stores that don't have any repair guys to pay. It's been a while since I bought my last bike (used) but even then I only paid $3K for a 2000 Honda CR250. So I got a serious wake up call when I started pricing bikes now. The KTM has my interest because of the counter balancer and hydraulic clutch but the electric start just seems like more things to eventually deal with. I don't mind kicking. I did used to own a 1986 Honda CR500 that I would have payed dearly for an electric start! The $8,000 price tag for the X has me choking a little but you are so right in that these are supposed to be my golden years. I'm pretty sure I'd be happy with the X. I've read enough about them and have probably watched every Youtube video I could find. I guess 68 sounds pretty old to some but I feel like I'm in my 30s. I'm sure a few hours riding won't hesitate to remind me of where I'm really at! Can't wait!
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    2019 YZ250X out the door pricing?

    Youngstown Ohio
  14. Hello, I'm new to the site but have been riding off road most of my life. It's been a while since I've ridden but at age 68 I want to get back into it. I've always ridden 2 strokes and mostly Yamahas. Because I'm familiar with working on 2 strokes that's what I want to buy. I've been looking for used Xs and there are a few that are available near me. I'm a little leary of buying used because you just never know what you're getting (although I've had pretty good luck in the past with used bikes). I've gone to 2 different dealers and got prices of what the new out the door price would be. Both were around the $8,000 mark which included state tax, dealer prep, etc, etc. So, my question before I go and try to haggle a better price is what are guys actually paying for these bikes? Another bike I'm considering is the KTM 300XC or 250 XC but they're around $9,400 and I don't see me riding enough to justify that kind of money. Any help with this would be greatly appreciated!
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