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  1. > WOW your either really stupid or you got brass balls. i smell a > lawsuit comming and i would hate to be you. > Defamation of a product... That's new case law. Also, experts would have to testify and everybody would get a good look at the data. Like I keep saying, if the stuff works as advertised, the Two2Cool formula will be worth billions in a few years and I'll be nothing more than a funny memory.
  2. I've always said I'm more interested in the mystery than any material stuff regarding this issue. I've also said I would keep everything public. This includes my research. I've been in contact with numerous experts in mechanical engineering and physics. One expert laughed and stated, "The guy has found an infinite heat sink." So far, most of the mechanical people find the boil-off explanation very plausible. Today I heard from a retired chemist that spent nearly forty years in the area. His observations are a bit critical of my boil-off theory. However, the chemist has also been bitten by the "missing energy" hunt and is wrestling with the mental gymnastics at the moment. From the chemist: Russell, after further thoughts, I don't believe your theory is correct, that evaporation of the additive is cooling the oil. Following are my thoughts... The relevant physical property is heat of vaporization, the energy associated with converting a liquid to a vapor. Very polar substances, like water and small alcohols (e.g. methanol), have very large values for heat of vaporization. Nonpolar substances, like oils and other hydrocarbons, have relatively small values. Whatever the additive is in Two2cool, it cannot be very polar, otherwise it would not dissolve in the bulk oil. When you consider that he recommends only 2 ounces per oil fill, complete vaporization of 2 ounces would carry off relatively few calories, BTUs, whatever is your favorite set of units. Too few to account for a 40 to 60 degree drop in oil temperature. The mathematics just don't add up, the quantity of Two2cool is too small. And, the more I thought about it (while mowing my yard in high heat and humidity, trying to transfer lots of body heat via vaporization of sweat!) , the only feasible way an additive could result in such a lower oil temperature is by faster, more efficient conduction of heat away from the oil, via the oil cooler and/or radiator. Something that modifies the oil, which as a hydrocarbon is, relatively speaking, an insulator, into something that allows heat to flow through it much faster. Maybe the guy really did discover something, but just doesn't understand what he has. I'm not trying to be argumentative, but as a chemist for almost 40 years, the vaporization of the additive explanation just doesn't seem plausible to me. ====== I have already asked this gentleman about how this could be if the bikes are observed to have cooler temperatures. If more of the heat is given up to the engine metal or oil cooler, the observations would call for a reduction in oil temperatures and an increase in engine case temperatures. Regardless, the energy not showing up as higher engine temperatures must be accounted for someplace.
  3. > This would be true only if two2cool is a friction modifier. Which it > isnt. Then how do you expect to make temps far above 200f with > a starter?? > I though you said Two2Cool seeks out heat to reduce friction and this is why the temperature goes down? Now it doesn't reduce friction? I know this is a tough thing to come up with on your own... Run the bike until it's as hot as your require, shut it off, and do the reverse dyno test. This isolation stuff is really difficult for you isn't it? > Totally ridicilous to say the least. Your decision to keep posting this > and not take us up on our offer is chickenshit to say the least. > > Im done. > Oh yeah, you're done. Chickshit?? Not hardly. I've contacted The Florida Attorney General's Office. They're the ones that investigate consumer fraud. I told the investigation unit that they were more than welcome to mention my name when discussing the topic with you. Maybe they'll take you up on the bike demo offer? I'll also be filing complaints with the FTC in addition to the various consumer protection departments of the states where your distributors reside. I'm sure the gearhead geeks that love to shutdown perpetual motion schemes will love your dance. Of course, if your product actually does break the laws of conservation, they'll certify you as a complete genius too. You can't loose. ========= Mr. Russell Clay markets a product predominantly to teenager and young adult dirt bike owners. His product clearly violates the fundamental laws of the conservation of energy. It's impossible to have "missing" heat. Contact me for *extensive* analysis of his various oil-additive claims. Basically, Mr. Clay has stumbled on to cooling via the well-studied phase-change effect. The phase change effect involves the transition of a substance from solid to liquid to gas. Mr. Clay is utilizing this "parlor trick" to dupe consumers out of their money. According to the MSDS (material safety data sheet) published by Mr. Clay's company for Two2Cool, the product boils at 375 degrees F. Most pure motor oils boil around ~550 degrees F. The cooling observations claimed are from the boil-off of the additive when an internal combustion engine gets hot. Air cooled dirt bike engines can get extremely hot. Mr. Clay has a heavy presence on various Internet discussion boards concerning motorcycle dirt bikes. These sites are also populated with young people uninformed about basic science. His circular explanations are either complete fabrications or out right lies. Mr. Clay doesn't seem to have much of a background in science which might lead one to believe he actually thinks his product works as advertised. However, as anyone with a little bit of physical science background knows, the conservation of energy is an iron-clad law.
  4. The incredible power of phase change demonstrated: My whole oil-additive cooling theory is based on the phase change effect. When a substance changes phase tremendous amounts of energy are either absorbed or released. The effect is well known and has been used for centuries. Ancient Egyptians used mats soaked with water hanging in widows to cool incoming air. If you live in a dry climate you're familiar with mist coolers. Mist coolers don't function very well in humid climates, though. Wet the skin on your arm and stick it out the window of a moving car or place it in front of a fan: you'll feel the coolness. A melting ice cube absorbs lots of energy as it turns from a solid to a liquid. Boiling water will keep a pan and the contents at 212f regardless of how high you turn up the stove. Of course, this effect disappears when the water/ice is gone. Ever notice how a gallon of milk seems to warm up so much faster in the summertime than it does in the wintertime? If I sit down to breakfast in my kitchen with a gallon of milk on the table during a mid summer's morning, by the time I'm done reading the paper, the jug will be noticeably warmer. It's also sweating profusely. In the winter, even though the kitchen temperature is about the same, the jug stays cool longer. The jug doesn't sweat in the winter. When the moisture in the air (gas) experiences a phase-change to liquid water, energy is dumped into the condensing surface. That energy warms the jug pretty quickly. Using the knowledge of phase-change I can make this relatively odd and accurate prediction if the temperatures are the same in both locations. This is assuming Arizona's humidity is lower when compared to Georgia. If I have two glasses with equal amounts of water and I add equal amounts of ice, the one glass in Tucson, Arizona, will stay cooler longer than the glass in Savannah, Georgia. The glass in Savannah, Georgia is going to absorb lots of energy from the condensing moisture available from the atmosphere. There is no magic happening here. It's a well-known and well-understood process. Phase changes from gas to liquid and from liquid to solid dump a lot of energy into their respective systems. Phase changes from solid to liquid and liquid to gas remove vast quantities of energy from their respective systems.
  5. When you're attempting to solve a jigsaw puzzle, start with the corner pieces and work your way in. If one corner stumps you, try another. It would be like obtaining a different angle on things. So far in our oil additive puzzle we've got the boil-off corner in addition to the reverse dyno (friction reduction) corner. Assuming a four corner puzzle, I've got two more angles to come at this mystery. What if I used an ordinary substance with a boiling point below Two2Cool? If my theories hold up we should see similar temperature decrease results around the ordinary substance's boiling point. What if we try kerosene? Kerosene boils at around 225f degrees. From: http://www.jrwhipple.com/hls/fuel_info.html Kerosene; Refined from oil. It is a liquid at temperatures up to about +225F and contains more energy per gallon than gasoline. Most commonly used as a heating or lamp fuel. Not nearly as volatile as gasoline or alcohol and can be used to assist in the starting of a trash-fire. Low volatility also makes kerosene a relatively safe fuel. Little work is required to allow a diesel engine to run kerosene. I make no claims as to the lubricating quality of kerosene. The only quality I claim is that it should exhibit similar cooling capabilities around the lower boiling point. If my boil-off theories are bunk junk, my product "WayKwel" won't be on the market long.
  6. > Urban dirt please do not address me in the threads anymore. > I'm assuming you are referring your surname. > I have no problem with you not being able to grasp our claims even > after I gave you data on other additives using close to the same > technology. I have no problem with you stating you still dont believe > our claims. Its your right to do so. > If your product works as claimed, it should be visible in very simple tests that isolate specific results. A hundred and fifty years ago James Joule figured out: He made a series of measurements and found that, on average, a weight of 772 pounds falling through a distance of one foot would raise the temperature of one pound of water by 1° F. If a guy with 150 year old equipment can discover this quantity of energy (actually, work). We should be able to find out where a few degrees of oil temperature ended up. > But then you email our dealers making a statement about a test you > admit here you have never done. > It was and still is a theory. However, the theory is based on well-accepted and very old science. I'm sure there's a few wheels that have started turning at your dealers. > Your decision to continue your agenda and not take us up on our > offer to conduct a test of your own with real equipment(not > borrowed as you mentioned) speaks for itself. > Are you saying only your equipment will return the correct results? A thermometer is a thermometer. It's not like the ones I buy in Ohio are any different than the ones in Florida. Besides, I can calibrate a thermometer in boiling water (100c). If your material safety data sheet is correct, I can calibrate it at 375f by boiling Two2Cool. > Two2cool works exactly as advertised. If you didnt think your case > was so weak you would take us up on the offer. > If I'm just another Internet crackpot why bother to continue the dialog? Just treat me like a mumbler on a public bus -- ignore me.
  7. > Maybe you could take more time and think things through before you > keep posting negative replies. > The last line was a jab. The rest of the post was spot-on. Look, jetting requirements change. That's why people change them. If Two2Cool's results were predictable and repeatable, the world's racers would drop the laborious work of fiddling with exact jetting trackside. Why pull the floatbowl if all I have to do is adjust my oil-additive mixture? > I havent a clue at this point if you are just not thinking here > and being an honest sceptic with personal issues or just an > *******. > Not thinking??? You're kidding, right?
  8. Isn't it possible to set up your filters to block viewing my posts? If you don't like the message, turn it off. ============== Mr. Clay, I have a five part response to your private email. Please make some room in your ThumperTalk in-box. Since I couldn't finish sending them all to you, I'm going to send them all again when you indicate the in-box will accept them. Thanks. ============== For the observers... Don't worry, my objectivity will remain public and any technical dialog will be for all to see.
  9. > Its no secret that a cooler intake charge jetted correctly makes > more power. > Absolutely. This is why individual dyno runs are always corrected for temperature and atmospheric pressure. > By adding two2cool many faster racers or anyone making excessive > heat can lean on their jetting a little harder. We also find it less > frightening to run leaner jetting on our big 4 strokes. I am a firm > believer that jetting changes with excessive heat. We all know > there is a hp loss. > Okay, let us assume Ricky Pro Racer has a mechanic that knows what he's doing. The bike is already jetted correctly pre oil-additive. If, the additive cools the intake charge as claimed, the bike will run lean. Cool air means a denser cylinder charge. More air requires more fuel which would require a richer rather than leaner setting. Start with a correctly jetted bike set up for a racer. Add Two2Cool which supposedly cools and makes the cylinder charge denser you end up with a lean condition. Then, the racer makes it leaner???? And the tail chasing continues... Sorry I stepped away for a while. The XR400R needed the new springs installed up front.
  10. > 2. Who do you know that can ever get a bikes engine oil to the > point two2cool even works?? > If no one can make your product work, I guess the argument is over. Please, donate the bikes.
  11. Mr. Clay, regardless of your insults about the dyno idea it will still work to prove/disprove your claims about friction reduction. The engine with Two2Cool being turned over by the starter will take less effort. There should be a noticeable difference between no Two2Cool and using Two2Cool if your claims hold true. It's that simple. It's that easy. It's that foolproof. If the numbers come out to be the same I'm thinking you'll claim Two2Cool doesn't work in an engine when turned by electricity. After all if it can tell the difference between various kinds of heat, it certain has the smarts to detect force coming from the burning of gasoline vs. the force coming from an electric starter.
  12. Odd the way sometimes life gives you exactly what you need right when you need it. Sometimes, it's a laugh. Sometimes, it's a friend. Sometimes, it's finding a forgotten twenty dollar bill at the same moment you realize you forgot to pack your lunch. My birthday is January 22. Saturday, July 16, 2005 Horoscope, By Holiday Mathis Creators Syndicate Aquarius (Jan. 20 - Feb. 18): There are those who adore what they don't understand. But you adore understanding for its own sake. A challenging individual is a puzzle, and you have to work at deciphering her or him. Miss Mathis' column can be found on the web at the Creators Syndicate site.
  13. Mr. Clay. you've always shouted about how you stand behind your claims. Wouldn't it show your commitment for that idea by publishing my "A Cheap Reverse Dyno" test procedures on your web page and including a printed sheet with every shipped bottle of your product? Maybe you could even offer some kind of refund if the decrease in friction wasn't at a certain level? After all, you've said your product may not work for everybody.
  14. Remember high school when your team won its football game? It was very sweet, wasn't it? Sixteen, a car, and the whole weekend ahead of you... Life is so sweet. Put it to your tongue like a cube of sugar. This guy, Mr. Clay, has been taking people's money for three or four years with little hard evidence that the product actually worked. He may have even believed in his perpetual motion machine. History is full of such dreamers. Really, I applaud them. When one's dreams die, they die. However, if you close out your mind and only focus on what you dream, life can't really be lived. Mr. Clay's round and round yammer babble made me think. He made me think and think and think. I've got over forty pages of "think" on my computer. People called me a moron repeatedly. To some, I was a stupid F**K. A geek nerd that had no real life experience. Yeah, I'm a geek at heart. Real life??? They don't know me. I've buried many skydiving friends. I've seen dead bikers on the Cherohala Skyway with their blood and oil staining the roadway and fragments of their bikes' plastic littering the grass along the guardrails. No practical life other than books... F*** them! This one is for the geeks that paid attention in school and still rode a motorcycle to Alaska with virtually no sleep for days. This one is for the nerds that always felt left behind because they enjoyed a good science mystery. This one is for the thinkers that blurted out the observation the King had no clothes while everyone else remained silent. Private notes of, "Go to it! We're behind you all the way!" meant a lot. Standing at my shoulder, however, would have meant more. Yeah, this one is for the fu**ing geeks that can make yammer babble disappear with a few well-placed remembrances from earth science class and a couple of simple energy conversion equations. ThumperTalk.com. The XR400R forum. "A cheap reverse dyno" Maybe Mr. Clay's stuff works? If so, we both win. At least now it can measured by anybody -- geek moron or not.
  15. > ha ha ha, for someone who could careless about winning any bikes > before, why the sudden interest? your pathetic > How about Mr. Clay donate them to a charity of his choice in my name???? Feel better?