you all say quads are so bad...why...its purely the rider...i have riden quads not bikes all my life. i have never had a mishap myself. so am i dangerous? hell no i am not. sorry you had a bad run in with them... as far as the skill crap, i promise you get on the same quad as borich and you won't even keep with him. so he has no skill? yes, it requires less skill to balence a quad but that is IT. there is a different skill set that is required for each ride. it is harder to dodge trees on a quad, on the other hand it is harder to ride ruts on a bike. why does eveyone always bash the other guy. it is total BS that everyone thinks they are better. appreciate everyone and hate the idiots that ruin it for us all. get over yourselfs. I'm Out.