Hi folks from Scotland. I've read this thread and have found it very interesting. I just thought I would share my experience with a Chinese bike with you guys. I bought a Shineray GY200XY in August 2004. I don't think anyone has mentioned the Shineray brand yet, but it looks pretty much the same as the Jetmoto. if anyone is interested I will post a pic later. I bought the bike basically to get to and from work (3 miles) and for a bit of fun in the dirt at the weekend. I've also got a Suzuki Bandit and bought the Shineray to keep the Bandit good in the winter. My experience of the Shineray - For the money it was a great little bike. I put 1800 miles on it in about 15 months. It never really gave me any major problems. One bad thing I will say about them is the quality of the nuts and bolts is pathetic, I think they would be stronger if they were made of chocolate! I eventually replaced most of them with stainless steel items. The exhaust was another dissapointment, im not sure what its coated with , but it didn't like the salt on our Scottish roads in the winter and quickly rusted more or less in front of my eyes. I took the exhaust off and rubbed it down and painted it with some Black High Temp paint. When I refited it one of the exhaust manifold studs snapped.....grrr. Other than that the only problem I had with it was with the battery constantly dying. I replaced it with a new one but it didn't hold its charge for very long either. I eventually gave up with the battery and used the kickstart, which gets much easier to start after a few hundred miles. Other than that I had no problems with it and believe me I thrashed it every day. The engine in these things will last longer than the rest of the bike. Top speed 70 mph, but would cruise at 55 to 60 all day. I've since sold it last month and got back just under 1/2 of what I paid for it. I have now bought a 1990 XT350....and its a 10 times better bike. If someone asked me would I recommend a Chinese bike, I would say yes, for value for money. But personnally I would buy an older, known brand bike before a Chinese bike, as long as its been looked after. Just my thought. The Ghostrider.