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I put another Camso DTS 129 kit on my brother in law's 2008 CRF 450X that he traded a cow/beef for. While the CRF is 9 years older than the 2017 RR-S 500, the RR-S is just superior in every way. I'll do a review either later in this thread or I'll start another one but at least for today, today was the best riding I have ever done. Ever. It was like my entire life was practice for all the pure powder riding we did on the snowbikes today. I love dirtbiking, it has always been the most fun thing I can do but now snowbiking has taken over as it combines the fun, the shifting, all the positives of the dirtbike but with none of the jar and jolt, no roots, rocks, holes, whoops, just soft, cushy snow to power on through or up, or down. It is the addiction to beat all addictions and the best part is that all I can do is look forward to the next day to ride, before I know it, winter will be over and we can ride the dirt again and not be so cold while doing it. I got a RotoPax 1 gallon tank, then got a 2 gallon RotoPax storage box and the extension to make the storage box tighten down with the twist on clamps-which I've been loving. It makes using the gas can and the storage just so easy and the hard mount is fantastic. We had ridden about 20 miles and I had emptied almost the entire gallon into the bike so I now know that I can go about 40 miles on a tank and will be able to go 20 miles on the gallon of reserve in the Rotopax. Generally, the track kit is sucking 50% of the power as I might get 50 mph on the trail, maybe 55 or 60 top speed, and while I get about 40 mpg on the street/trail, I'm getting 1/2 of that in/on the snow, which is no problem, just that everything gets cut by 1/2 on the snow. Stock for stock, all the Beta's controls, and how the bike feels, at least on the snow, is way better than the Honda's. The CRF450X is carbureted and does not have a hydraulic clutch, and as it does not have either a quick turn throttle or jimmy twister, the entire bike feels so crude compared to the RR-S. The 2008 Honda has also been ridden very easily its entire life as evidenced by how clean the motor is. My motor, from going through all the puddles, mud puddles, swamp puddles, every kind of dirty water has gotten onto my motor and has stained or etched the metal unlike the CRF that is almost showroom clean despite being 9 years older than the 2017 Beta. Oh well. One area where both the bikes are more equal is in power. The Honda has great power but I also feel that the Beta could take it in a dragrace or any kind of roll-on, either way, my BIL and I agreed that we do not yearn for more power with either bike. More tomorrow.

I noticed recently that the thin edge of my timbersled track ripped off. Does this even do anything? It seems to work fine. Is this ok to run?

New Timbersled™ ARO™ Platform A Timbersled system converts a dirt bike into a snow bike that rides on a ski up front and a track in the rear. The system lets a rider use that favorite dirt bike year-round, exploring winter’s snow-covered terrain – on hard-pack as well as in deep, ungroomed snow. For 2018, Timbersled is elevating the ride experience yet again with the all-new Timbersled ARO platform. This innovative system provides the ultimate in performance and handling, while changing the game in ease of installation. The new ARO system platform is 11 lbs. lighter, and features an all-new aluminum chassis, rear suspension, track, and ski that combine to give riders industry-leading handling, the easiest convertibility and is still Timbersled tough. 2018 Timbersled Models Include: ARO 120- Delivering the ultimate in crossover performance ARO 120 LE- Limited-edition version with upgraded shocks, custom colors and graphics. ARO 137- Delivering the incredible flotation, traction and acceleration deep snow riders need to ride higher and go deeper into the backcountry. ARO 137 LE- Limited-edition version with upgraded shocks, custom colors and graphics. ST 120 RAW- The industry’s best snow value ST 90 RIPPER- Every rider in the family can go snow biking. The system is designed for 110cc dirt bikes and, with its low ride height, it provides riders with easy, responsive handling. Timbersled is the top choice among today’s snow bikers – and snow bike racers – because the system delivers the best performance, the most-innovative technology and the most exciting riding experience.

well here it goes for my build for this season. 2020 Yamaha 450F FMF titanium slip on exhaust, REKLUSE clutch, Timbersled ARO3 with Trio shock and TSS shock, C3 Powersports thermostat, heated bars,intake, foot pegs, bar risers, hand guards, light, Seat concepts wide comfy snowbike seat, Unabiker rad guards, P3 pipe guards, drifters engine jacket, acerbis skid plate, Shorai lithium ion battery with 4 times the capacity. timbersled pivot dolly for moving it around the shop. It's been a fun build with everything working out nicely so far. Can't wait for snow now. Just waiting on pipe and gas jub and it'll be good to go

I am thinking about doing a snowbike conversion on my 400f. Has anyone done this and if so what all needs to be done besides heating the carb with extra coolant lines around it. Tia

Since snowmobile season is over, I figured that I would service my high mileage 17' Timbersled 137 LE. New chain, sprockets, Hyfax, re-grease suspension, repack bearings, the like. I figured since stock sprockets lasted over 200 hours that the rest of the kit would last at least at long. Here's what I found: The double bearing holders (picture directly above) has two bearings one side sealed, and the open faces together on the inside. Since the bearings are only a slip fit in the holder and a slip fit on the jackshaft, water can still get inside the "sealed" bearings. Once bearings don't have lube they tend to not spin as well, see jackshaft: The jackshaft is a $120 part from timbersled and luckily bearings with seals on BOTH sides can be had for around $1.80 apiece on fleabay https://www.ebay.com/itm/6205-2RS-Premium-Sealed-Ball-Bearings-25-x-52-x-15-Qty-10-2-Side-Rubber-Seals/382787894498?_trkparms=aid%3D111001%26algo%3DREC.SEED%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D56922%26meid%3Df14e67605db1417eb5dd47d316526626%26pid%3D100675%26rk%3D2%26rkt%3D15%26sd%3D111755775484%26itm%3D382787894498&_trksid=p2481888.c100675.m4236&_trkparms=pageci%3A5fa4f0af-5e6a-11e9-a9c9-74dbd1802254%7Cparentrq%3A1a0467f516a0ab1da8551ea6fffc0d7f%7Ciid%3A1 I would advise anyone with an older, higher mileage kit to take theirs apart and replace the bearings before they become like mine and ruin more things! It was still a great season and I rode the shit out of it. https://www.instagram.com/p/BvrqhIlBOUc/?utm_source=ig_web_button_share_sheet

WASHINGTON, D.C. – July 6, 2018 – (Motor Sports Newswire) – Recall Summary Name of product: Camso dirt to snow bike conversion kits Hazard: The bolts on the brakes can loosen, posing a crash or impact hazard. Remedy: Repair Recall date: July 6, 2018 Units: About 480 (In addition, 430 were sold in Canada) Consumer Contact: Camso toll-free at 866-533-0008 from 8 a.m. to 5 p.m. ET Monday through Friday or online at www.camso.co and click on “service and support” for more information Recall Details In Conjunction With: Canada Description: This recall involves model year 2018 Camso DTS 129 and Yeti Snow MX kits that are used to convert off road motorcycles or dirt bikes to track and ski vehicles. The DTS 129 kits have a serial number starting with 9025ICEXXXX located on the conversion system frame. The Yeti Snow MX kits have a serial number starting with YE3XXXX located under the system. DTS 129 and the Camso logo or the Yeti logo are printed on the side of the product. Remedy: Consumers should immediately stop using bikes with the recalled conversion kits and contact an authorized Camso dealer for a free repair. Incidents/Injuries: Camso has received two reports involving the DTS 129 brake disc bolts loosening and seven reports involving the Yeti Snow MX brake disc bolts loosening. No injuries have been reported. Sold At: Powersports dealers nationwide from August 2017 through May 2018 for about $4,800 for the DTS and $7,700 for the Yeti. Manufacturer(s): Camso Inc. of Quebec, Canada Importer(s): Camso Inc. of Quebec, Canada Manufactured In: Canada Recall number: 18-184 This recall was conducted, voluntarily by the company, under CPSC’s Fast Track Recall process. Fast Track recalls are initiated by firms, who commit to work with CPSC to quickly announce the recall and remedy to protect consumers. The U.S. Consumer Product Safety Commission is charged with protecting the public from unreasonable risks of injury or death associated with the use of thousands of types of consumer products under the agency’s jurisdiction. Deaths, injuries, and property damage from consumer product incidents cost the nation more than $1 trillion annually. CPSC is committed to protecting consumers and families from products that pose a fire, electrical, chemical or mechanical hazard. CPSC’s work to help ensure the safety of consumer products – such as toys, cribs, power tools, cigarette lighters and household chemicals -– contributed to a decline in the rate of deaths and injuries associated with consumer products over the past 40 years. Federal law bars any person from selling products subject to a publicly-announced voluntary recall by a manufacturer or a mandatory recall ordered by the Commission. Source: Consumer Product Safety Commission

Hey all, When I was considering buying a sled kit for my drz I tried to find info on somebody else doing it but with no success. So I thought I would make a little write up on how it rides. This was my first ride on the mototrax kit, and was possibly the most fun I’ve ever had on the bike. On the trail it wants to follow other tracks pretty bad but is very manageable. Gearing is super low on the kit, I was wound out doing 57 in fifth gear. Being late in the season I wasn’t able to find any powder it was all soft sugar but she did far better than expected. I found third gear mid range to be quite comfortable on it. Sidehilling was a dream, if you wanna turn up or down the hill it felt the same as on flat. Anyways if your on the fence bout buying one just go buy it you’ll never regret it.

I’m in process of rebuilding the top end of my 16 fc450 and can’t find any info anywhere on head studs and fly wheel nut torque specs… any help would be awesome.

Timbersled™ Announces Another Innovation – Timbersled TRIO™ Front Suspension Dirt Bike-Like Performance, Handling and Control Minneapolis, Sept. 18, 2017- Timbersled™ today announced, the brand fueling the rapid growth of snow biking, is taking the experience to the next level with the all-new Timbersled TRIO™ front suspension. A first in the industry, the innovative TRIO system makes it even easier and more cost-effective to convert a dirt bike to-and-from a snow bike. Once installed, it also provides the ultimate in control and handling. Dirt bike owners will appreciate the quick-and-easy, bolt-on design which means more time is spent on the trails and back country than in the garage. A full install can be done in less than 30-minutes making the conversion to-and-from dirt to snow and back even easier. The system is also cost effective as the stock forks no longer must be retuned or rebuilt – saving more than $500 the first year. TRIO also provides improved control, handling and comfort due to the front suspension shock’s dual-rate air spring that provides indefinite adjustability for all riding levels, terrain or personal style. The shock also counters rider fatigue by eliminating bottoming out and decreasing diving, and minimizes impact to the ski due to increased lower fork protection. TRIO is compatible with all snow bike kits as long as the ARO spindle and ski are used. It also attaches to most brands of dirt bikes. The system retails for $899.99 and requires an install kit depending on bike type. It will be available at Timbersled dealers and online in September. About Polaris Polaris Industries Inc. (NYSE: PII) is a global powersports leader that has been fueling the passion of riders, workers and outdoor enthusiasts for more than 60 years. With annual 2016 sales of $4.5 billion, Polaris’ innovative, high-quality product line-up includes the RANGER®, RZR® and Polaris GENERAL™ side-by-side off-road vehicles; the Sportsman® and Polaris ACE® all-terrain off-road vehicles; Indian Motorcycle® midsize and heavyweight motorcycles; Slingshot® moto-roadsters; and Polaris RMK®, INDY®, Switchback® and RUSH® snowmobiles. Polaris enhances the riding experience with parts, garments and accessories, along with a growing aftermarket portfolio, including Transamerican Auto Parts. Polaris’ presence in adjacent markets globally include military and commercial off-road vehicles, quadricycles, and electric vehicles. Proudly headquartered in Minnesota, Polaris serves more than 100 countries across the globe. Visit www.polaris.com for more information.

Been filming with my friend Geoff Kyle in Whistler, BC for his snowbike guiding company Geoff Kyle's Freeride. We went out new years eve on his new 2018 Yeti 129SS Snowbike kits, the snow is unreal right now up there. If you want a chance to ride a snowbike this is the place to be. http://whysnowbike.com

Anyone else in here go for the white gold? Just finishing up my 17 YZ450F SnowtechMX 120