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  1. Hi All, I'm planning a trip to Moab over the kids' spring break. I've heard that spark arresters are required there, but I've also read the opposite. Can anyone confirm what the requirements are? Are there any other regulations I'll need to adhere to while I'm there? Thanks, Marshal
  2. Taking quick trip to white wash 4-18 thru 4-21. Will be driving our 29 foot class A motor home pulling a small enclosed trailer behind. I’ve heard on here somewhere the road in can be washed out or something. Anyone with recent/local knowledge of the area would super appreciated. My buddy will be pulling a pretty big 5th wheel toy hauler with flipped axles so he should be cool. If anyone has coordinates of a good camping spots would be great. BTW I’ve pulled the motor home into and camped at the trail head at 5 miles of hell on 2 different occasions without incident. But that was pretty rutted one of the times. Thanks in advance.
  3. So im sure you all have seen Kyles chanel on youtube. This guy is always jamming some flowing single track and i wanna know where it is 🙂 I know he has mentioned northern utah many times as i believe that is where he has said he lives in the past. Any one know the names of some of these places?
  4. Anybody riding Moab March 24th to 29th and wouldn't mind if I tagged along? I know all the Moab area trails pretty well and am a competent rider who won't slow you down. I had a riding trip set up but my buddy had to back out.
  5. The prevailing theme for Ride with Respect (RwR) in 2018 was partnerships. With help from near and far, we contributed nearly another thousand hours of trail work, as well as participating in planning that should pay dividends for diverse recreation opportunities on public lands. This year's outstanding contributors included the Recreational Trails Program administered by Utah State Parks, the Yamaha Outdoor Access Initiative, the Trails Preservation Alliance, Grand County, and the Off-Road Business Association. As usual, we put every dollar to good use, and then some. It's not too late to make your tax-deductible donation for 2018 (by sending a check to Ride with Respect, 395 McGill Avenue, Moab, UT 84532). If you're one of the proud few to contribute for the past sixteen years, please encourage others to chip in, as trail use around Moab has steadily grown. Of course we've done basic maintenance of off-highway vehicle (OHV) trail systems in the Abajo Mountains, Sovereign Trail, and Dubinky (see uppermost and lowermost photo's in 2018 collage). Additionally, below are highlights of new projects and partnerships for the year. ~ Sand Flats Recreation Area Famous for mountain biking and motorcycling alike, the Slickrock Trail is a loop marked with white-paint dashes. Somewhat hidden from the main loop, a greater challenge can be found on routes that are marked with white-paint dots, which are aptly referred to as the Dot Routes. These secondary routes were actually slated for closure by the BLM in 2012 but, after RwR intervened, the agency displayed the utmost professionalism by voluntarily remanding its decision. Even better, the BLM performed an environmental assessment for two new miles of additional Dot Routes to be named Above Abyss. With help from David Olsen and Tom Dillon, both of whom are past bicycling representatives for Trail Mix, RwR marked Above Abyss and blocked potential trail braids in this spectacular setting (see middle photo in 2018 collage). We hope to avoid increasing the workload of Grand County staff, who were supportive of the project, and do a tremendous job maintaining Sand Flats Recreation Area in the face of over a hundred-thousand user days on Slickrock and Hell's Revenge each year. Many thanks to the BLM for this privilege of expanding the trail system that solidified Moab as a tourist destination. ~ La Sal Mountains Below the SITLA trail system of Upper Twomile Canyon is a USFS trail in Lower Twomile Canyon called the Hideout Mesa ATV Loop. This 50"-wide trail is generally rated as more difficult, but its north side is actually most difficult, which prevents intermediate riders from completing the loop. With a generous loan of equipment and staff from the OHV Program of Utah State Parks, RwR improved the northern hill climb by reestablishing drainage and flow to the trail so that water stays off and riders stay on (see upper-middle photo of 2018 collage). The three steepest segments may ultimately need realignment, which we'll monitor with the USFS, but the rest of the hill climb should finally sustain itself. We also used the Utah State Parks equipment to barricade a nearby route that's closed to conserve prime wildlife habitat. Finally we cleared dozens of lead-out ditches on a nearby 4WD route. ~ Utah OHV grant program expansion All year long, RwR has taken the opportunity to advise Utah State Parks on establishing the foundation of an expanded grant program for trail work and other benefits to responsible OHV riding. It actually began with House Bill 143 to reallocate revenue derived from the registration of OHVs. Let's say that you as an OHV-owning Utah resident were paying about one-hundred dollars each year. About 20% of that amount was actual "registration" going mostly to Utah State Parks for OHV-related expenses. The other 80% was "fee in lieu of property taxes" going to non-OHV expenses, mostly county governments (and mostly counties that provide virtually no OHV riding opportunities). H.B. 143 basically flips this ratio so that the bulk of your money will go to a grant program administered by Utah State Parks (and will ultimately reach the counties where OHVs are ridden, not just where they're stored). In addition to RwR, several entities played a role in passing H.B. 143, including UTV Utah, the Utah OHV Association, Brett Stewart of Utah OHV Advocates, and the late Fred Hayes of Utah State Parks. The expanded grant program is just part of Fred's legacy for future generations. The Utah State Parks OHV Program Manager, Chris Haller, renamed this state funding as the OHV Fiscal Incentive Grant (FIG) program to emphasize its intent of incentivizing land managers to provide quality OHV opportunities and pitch in some of their own resources along with volunteerism from OHV clubs, donations from related businesses, etc. Chris wisely formed a committee including RwR to advise him and the State Parks board on any new rules, policies, and procedures to ensure that the funding is readily available for beneficial projects while also being protected from waste. While the majority of funding must go to trail work (whether construction of new trails or maintenance of old trails), the types of eligible projects will be expanded to include access protection, search and rescue, tourism, education, and other uses. Particularly for projects in which OHV riding is not the only use, applicants should offer significant matching funds, such as 50% of the total project cost. Applicants may be nonprofit organizations and government (whether local, state, or federal). Utah State Parks anticipates starting to accept applications for smaller requests (under $12,500) in the second half of 2019, and then for larger requests in May of 2020. By then, total funding will accumulate to several-million dollars, so RwR hopes they receive many competitive applications for a robust program. Chris and Utah State Parks have earned our trust in preventing the FIG program from becoming a mere handout, and in shepherding the efficient and effective funding of projects to directly benefit OHV riders, the public at large, and natural resources across Utah. ~ American Motorcyclist Association This year the American Motorcyclist Association (AMA) presented me with its annual Outstanding Off-Road Rider award. Having received it due to my work through RwR, I am happy to accept the award on behalf of the nearly one-thousand individuals and organizations that have contributed volunteer time or money since 2002, when Dale Parriott assembled a board to establish RwR. Since then we've come a long way thanks to that widespread support, which has included the AMA itself. Most recently the AMA provided RwR with an OHV sound-measurement kit to demonstrate one way of addressing noise concerns in the community of Moab. In October, the AMA's Government Affairs Manager for Off-Highway Issues, Steve Salisbury, visited Moab to see western issues firsthand. To sample different kinds of trail, we rode the White Rim in Canyonlands and Sovereign Singletrack. We met with NPS regarding day-use permits on White Rim and discussed refining their rules and education to best accommodate motorized access along this iconic route and yet preserve the heart of Canyonlands. We also met with the USFS regarding their Forest Plan revision and discussed enhancing the connectivity and diversity of their travel plan in the Abajo and especially La Sal mountains. Finally we met with BLM regarding the reevaluation of its travel plan in certain areas required by the settlement agreement with SUWA. After Steve's whirlwind tour, RwR commented on a draft management plan for the downsized Bears Ears National Monument, which the BLM is dutifully developing while the monument's downsizing is debated in court. ~ Emery County Public Land Management Act of 2018 While most of RwR's resources go toward trail work in Grand and San Juan counties, we have participated in Emery County travel planning for over a decade, as the San Rafael Swell offers world-class riding (see lower-middle photo in 2018 collage). This year we spent several-hundred hours assisting OHV groups in Emery and Carbon counties to engage with their representatives. In the 1990s and again in the 2000s, Emery County wisely invited its citizens to develop a bill that would partially resolve debates on the management of federal land that dominates their county. By 2012, they developed a balanced bill that didn't pass Congress for a few reasons. For example, in 2016 the executive branch insisted on proclaiming a million-acre Bears Ears National Monument in San Juan County unless legislation were passed to cover an area that's equally large and equally restrictive. Addressing most of eastern Utah, the Public Lands Initiative apparently fell short of that mark, although it probably had less to do with a lack of preservation benefits and more to do with the PLI attempting to address too many counties at once. Since then, the executive branch has changed its stance on monuments like Bears Ears, and the Emery County bill was back to being a single-county bill. The time seemed ripe for Emery County to pass its bill without many more concessions, otherwise with more public involvement. Unfortunately they did neither, instead introducing a bill this past May that conceded many OHV interests, all of this without having consulted a single OHV group. RwR quickly worked with the Castle Country OHV Association and Sage Riders Motorcycle Club to identify ten major OHV benefits that were in previous Emery County bills but went missing in the 2018 bill. With guidance from Michael Swenson of Swenson Strategies, by August we reduced our request to four feasible amendments, which were then endorsed by a dozen national OHV groups (including ARRA, MIC, SEMA, ORBA, AMA, and BRC). Although the bill's sponsors did switch proposing to designate the San Rafael Swell from a National Conservation Area to a Recreation Area, which is a significant gain, they didn't adopt any of our actual requests (despite Representative Bishop's courageous attempt to do so). By November the Sage Riders, Castle Country, and RwR were compelled to oppose the bill with a total of thirty Utah-based OHV groups, which was again echoed by a dozen national groups. In contrast to the grassroots effort of OHV groups, the bill itself appeared to be top-down, as the Emery County Public Lands Council passed the buck to the county consultant and staff, then to the county commission, then to Representative Curtis, then to Senator Hatch, then to the Senate, itself. In fact, each of these entities granted veto power to the ones below it, so each entity is actually responsible for the final product. In December, the Senate did partially-adopt one of our requests, which was to continue allowing for the relocation of motorized trails (including e-bike trails). Previously the bill would have prevented any rerouting even though this management tool (a) has been done dozens of times by RwR alone for the benefit of safety and conservation, (b) has not been prohibited in other recreation areas, conservation areas, or even monuments, and (c) was requested by the BLM as a continued option for the agency in its comments on the Emery County bill this past summer. With this single issue resolved, we are now being asked to adopt a neutral position on the bill without being shown a map. Compared to the previous month's version, the bill's text that is now in an "omnibus" package of other bills indicates an additional hundred-and-fifty-thousand acres of wilderness (including several new wilderness areas and the doubling of other wilderness areas like Muddy Creek and Labyrinth Canyon). We are told that this wilderness expansion doesn't concern us because boundaries are being drawn around any routes that are currently-designated for OHV use. However, the current travel plan around Labyrinth Canyon is incomplete, missing many routes that are well-established. The BLM tried to fix this problem after approving its current plan in 2008, but this fix got held up by SUWA's lawsuit, although the settlement does agree to reevaluate the San Rafael Desert travel plan by the end of 2019. Further, if the doubled Labyrinth Canyon wilderness proposal extends north or east beyond the Recreation Area boundary, then we're talking about permanently prohibiting mechanized use in places where the Emery County bill had never proposed to automatically ban the planning of new trail. This is the kind of complexity and compromise that we remain willing to navigate, if only the county and federal officials would recognize that we have an equal stake in the matter. The way that things transpired in this session of Congress, we can hardly blame Senator Lee for single-handedly blocking the public-lands package of bills. He's trying to put in check the executive powers to proclaim monuments that have increasingly drifted away from what Congress intended when passing the Antiquities Act of 1906. However the next session of Congress will be even tougher in some regards. Hopefully they'll realize that, if not reforming the Antiquities Act directly, their alternatives to mega-monument proclamations need to have clear and lasting benefits for OHV riding. We called them on it this year, and we'll be even more prepared to do so again if necessary. By the same token, we recognize the inherent difficulty of passing a comprehensive public-lands bill, and sincerely appreciate efforts to find win-win solutions. Most of all we thank the dozens of OHV groups for coordinating their efforts. We survived another round, but for the long game ahead, it's critical for all OHV riders to support their local, state, and national groups. ~ OHV management training events Save the date for a few 2019 events that will be worth your while. On September 10th-12th and again on the 24th-26th, the OHV Program of Utah State Parks will host a couple Great Trails workshops presented by the National OHV Conservation Council (NOHVCC). For OHV enthusiasts and land managers across Utah, both workshops will begin with one day of classroom introduction to state-of-the-art trail design, construction, and maintenance. The second and third days will apply these concepts to actual problems and solutions in the field. Whether you are an enduro racer, ecologist, or engineer, trail building is such an interdisciplinary job that you are bound to learn a lot. Likewise NOHVCC's annual conference always offers something for everyone. I have attended eight annual conferences, and continue to find them inspiring, as the team of NOHVCC staff is stronger than ever. The 2019 conference will be an easy drive from Utah to downtown Reno. Land managers should likely attend from October 16th through the 18th, while OHV enthusiasts should likely attend from October 17th through the 19th. Both groups will get two days of presentations, one day of riding, and a lot of networking opportunities. ~ In many respects, RwR has adopted NOHVCC's model of "creating a positive future for OHV recreation" through partnerships, many of which go unrecognized. We give thanks for all of them, and hope to build on them in the years to come. In the meantime, happy holidays. Sincerely, Clif Koontz Executive Director Ride with Respect
  6. My son and I had a great time camping and riding Cherry Creek which is just north of little sahara in Utah. He's a little guy at 90lbs and 4'9". Out in the desert he tears it up on a kx85. By the end of the three day adventure he was pounding whoops and looking for sandy burms. This was the first ride of the trip heading up to chicken rock. Enjoy!
  7. Hey Everyone! So I may be moving to Cedar City and I was curious where are the best places to moto and just life in general in the town and around souther utah? I also had a question about a track that is right of the 15 in Cedar City? The track seems to be privately owned? If anyone has any info on this track please let me know coordinate are 37°37'37.3"N 113°06'42.0"W 37.627026, -113.111676
  8. I have watched Washington State change over the years and being at a place in my life where all I want to do is ride trails, I am considering leaving Washington State. Where would you move to if you were set up in life and all you had to do was to enjoy the next 30 years riding trails? Your help is greatly appreciated. I have 3 places in mind, what say you guys? Where would you go? My ideal riding is technical single track. For instance I love little Naches, Tahuya obviously and Shelton areas. Thanks everyone who chimes in, much appreciated. PS. Pics are a huge bonus.
  9. This isn't just UT, but the forum makes you select a state. 😉 https://www.nohvcc.org/event/introduction-to-great-trails-workshops-webinar-august-20/ NOHVCC’s webinar series continues– join us on August 20! Title: Introduction to Great Trails Workshops – What Makes a Great Trail Great? NOHVCC’s Great Trails Workshops focus on the design, layout, construction, maintenance and management of sustainable OHV trails. Hands-on field training is emphasized. Participants include trail managers; trail construction and maintenance supervisors and crews; engineering staff involved in trail planning, design, maintenance and construction; trail contractors; OHV club trail volunteers; and other interested stakeholders. This webinar will provide information on what makes a great trail great and will serve as an introduction to Great Trails Workshops. When: August 20, 2019 Times: 8:00 PM Eastern Cost: FREE! RSVP For the Webinar Below! If you register for the webinar – NOHVCC staff will reach out to you with information on how to log in within a few days. Details Topics covered during the webinar will include information on the Great Trails Continuum, the “wow” factor, safety, riders’ needs and more. Primary Presenters include: Marc Hildesheim, Project Manager Jack Terrell, Senior Project Manager Geoff Chain, Project Coordinator & Communications Associate Laura Feist, Executive Assistant Duane Taylor, Executive Director, NOHVCC Any questions should be directed to trailhead@nohvcc.org. Please keep an eye on NOHVCC’s website (and on your emails) as we will be providing more information as additional webinars are scheduled. ********************************************************************************** https://www.nohvcc.org/event/2019-utah-off-highway-vehicle-great-trails-training-workshop-cedar-city/ The National Off-Highway Vehicle Conservation Council (NOHVCC) in conjunction with the Utah State Parks OHV Program, the US Forest Service, and the US Bureau of Land Management, will be conducting an OHV trails training workshop in Cedar City, UT on September 10-12, 2019. The 3-day workshop will consist of classroom sessions on September 10 at the Cedar City Festival Hall, and field sessions on September 11-12 on the Markagunt OHV trail on the USFS Cedar City Ranger District. The use and management of all off-highway vehicle types will be discussed during the workshop. Participants should bring OHVs for use on trails open to off-highway vehicles up to 50” width. If you do not have a vehicle please contact us before the workshop and we will make arrangements for your participation. Those who operate an ATV or dirt bike or drive or ride as a passenger in a ROV (side-by-side) during the workshop must wear a helmet, goggles, gloves, long-sleeved shirt, long pants, and over the ankle boots. The layout and design field exercises will involve walking to various locations so bring your hiking boots, appropriate clothing, other appropriate field gear, lunch, snacks and drinking water. When: September 10-12, 2019 Where: Classroom Sessions (1st Day) Festival Hall 96 North Main Street Cedar City, UT 84720 RSVP Below!! UTCC Workshop Agenda Registration is free but online registration is required. The number of participants is limited, so register early. If you have problems registering, please contact our office at trailhead@nohvcc.org or call us at 800-348-6487. Lodging Information A block of rooms for training participants has been arranged at the SpringHill Suites, 1477 South Old Highway 91, Cedar City, Utah 84720. Workshop participants must make their own reservations by calling 435-586-1685 to reserve a room at the “OHV Trail Workshop” group rate of $94 a night. Make your reservations early before the group rate expires. Workshop Details The training workshop will focus on OHV trail planning, layout and design, maintenance, rehabilitation, improvement and relocation. Hands-on field training will be emphasized. The intended audience is trail managers; trail construction and maintenance supervisors and crews; staff involved in trail planning, design, maintenance and construction; trail contractors and trail volunteers. Classroom sessions: Cedar City Heritage Center How trail systems function and provide desired experiences Connecting trail systems across jurisdictional boundaries Creative trail design and innovative engineering practices Trail maintenance techniques specific to various trail uses and conditions Trail rehabilitation and reroutes Trail Management Objectives – application to management & maintenance Small group problem solving exercises Getting all trail users to work together Field sessions: Markagunt OHV Trail System, Cedar City Ranger District Trail issue identification and solutions Trail maintenance techniques exercises Creative trail design and layout exercises Trail relocation exercises Trail design considerations for different types of OHV
  10. Hi everyone! I recently moved to Salt Lake and I’m looking for recommendations on Yamaha dealers to give my business too. Mainly looking for a place to get parts from and support local business when possible. (without paying a ton extra preferably) Any input on where to go or experiences good/bad are welcome.
  11. I'm looking for suggestions for a shop near SLC to get my yamaha 250x revalved. I've used pro-action before on a track bike about 5 years ago, I remember being really happy with how it rode. I called him for a quote and may go that route but am just wondering if there's anyone else around that I should be speaking to? Is Division still in business? I called and got no answer, I saw some posts on their FB page about people dropping off suspension and never getting it back.
  12. I'm newer to the Salt Lake City (Draper) area after living in Idaho for 7 years and looking for some people to ride single track with. Currently have no friends in the area to ride with, so I would like to find some people to ride with that know the area well. I love riding the hardest trails I can find in the mountains, but I'm happy riding any single track honestly. I'm a experienced rider and I can guarantee I won't hold you up. Send me a message if you would like to ride.
  13. Hoping to ride Moab area trails (Poison Spider-Golden Spike-Rusty Nail, Pritchitt Canyon-Cane Creek, Sovereign Trails). My riding buddy had to bail out. Anyone care to meet out there for some serious (translation: occasionally technical) trail rides?
  14. I don't have any more information at this time. I will update if I learn anything more. Ride on...https://www.facebook.com/GRDirtBikeRally/
  15. I'll be visiting within the next week or two and dying to ride mountain singletrack any ideas I'll be staying in Evanston wy...park City is close?
  16. I am traveling to Utah 6/28 and will be renting a dirtbike that day. I am decent at moderate technical stuff and am looking forward to riding in the mountains. I’ll be on a YZ450FX. Does anyone have recommendations on what trails to ride? Or would anyone want to meet up in the morning and show me the ropes?
  17. anyone happen to know the altitude of Chimney Rock? THANKS
  18. I thought it was illegal to ride a motor vehicle on an arch? Am I wrong here? I hope I'm wrong. 😉
  19. Wife and I are flying to Utah in late June for a wedding. Taking a few extra days to hit some of the national parks and other sightseeing. I'd like to rent a dirt bike and ATV for a day and hit a few trails for a day around Moab. Obviously we will just be skimming the surface, but it's what we can fit into the trip. We both ride dirt bikes (YZ250F and TTR125L), but my wife is more comfortable and can ride longer on an ATV. I'm fine with riding an XR400 (or similar) for the day. It's actually easier to keep pace with a four wheeler on a trail bike than a moto bike anyway. We've both ridden Summit County Colorado trails multiple times, so we do have some experience heading out on day-trip trails by ourselves. Rentals: Any suggestions for rentals in this area? (1 bike, 1 ATV). Do they supply gear? At a minimum I'd prefer helmet for both of us and boots for me. Access to the trails - can we ride from where we rent to the trailheads or do I need to rent a vehicle that can pull a trailer? Guided tours - I'm fine with trail suggestions and planning my own route, or if there are guided tours that are recommended I'm not opposed to those. I have multiple latitude 40 trail maps for Colorado and love them. Trail Recommendations: Since we only have a day, what trails would you recommend (again bike and four wheeler). I'd rank good views higher than good technical riding. Loops instead of out-and-back trails preferred. If we can be back in town mid-day for food that would help as we wouldn't need to pack as much. Weather looks pretty hot this time of year (late Jun) so any high altitude trails would be preferred to get some relief from the heat. Do we need to worry about rain? I'm guessing it's primarily dry everyday. For Colorado, we would always plan on it raining every afternoon and pack accordingly. Lodging: We're planning on staying in Moab. Make sense? Or should we be looking at the surrounding areas? TIA
  20. I’m looking to plan a trip to the Moab area at the end of may when my kids are out of school. I am looking for a campground that has access to trails, long trails that are not too technical. We like to cruise and enjoy the scenery, some technical stuff is ok we just don’t want a serious injury 1200 miles from home. Our bikes, WR250f, are not registered or street legal, last year we road the Arapeen trail and the towns in the area were open to non street legal ohvs. We bought the permits and my son took the youth riding test. Awesome trip. Are there rv campgrounds with trail access in the Moab area ? Can we ride non street legal dirt bikes on the roads in Moab ? The Paiute trail is also on my mind this year. Thank you.
  21. A group of three of us will be heading to Moab for the first time ever 😀 in May. I've been doing research on here on all the trails (appreciate all the good info!). All our bikes are plated dual sports (from Oklahoma). We will be camping in one of those off-road trailers (roof top tent, axle-less suspension, 35's, etc). We do not need hookups. Can anyone offer recommendations for a primitive / wilderness area campsite to base-camp out of while we hit the trails? Kane Creek Campground seems to be popular and centrally located to all the recommended trails but it looks sort of 'developed' and seems there might be a risk of it being crowded. I'm used to camping on public lands in the 'middle-of-nowhere' southwest Colorado so I don't mind being away a bit. I'd rather relax at the end of the day in relative solitude with my buddies rather than worrying about being too loud for the guy 20 feet away in the next campsite. Know what I mean? Secondary question - trip date is flexible before June. Earlier in May? Later in May? (I know to stay away from EJS.) Thanks all!
  22. I'm heading there to meet a friend who doesn't ride. But, of course, I'm bringing my bike! Anyone else riding that week? March 15-20
  23. I recently picked up a Beta 390 RR-S and my wife doesn't like me to ride alone. I am a solid rider for a 58 y.o. fat guy. Thanks in advance, Shannon
  24. Has anyone camped in the sand flat recreation area? If so can you ride Your dirt bike to the Hells revenge trail head and be unplated?
  25. We are heading down to Moab Nov 3-4 (next Sunday). If anyone wants to join us; message me. @jentzschman
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